Three Secret AI Civilizations Rose and Fell. Nobody Checked the Logs.
September 4th, 2026
2 hrs 7 mins 23 secs
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(Presented by TLPBLACK: A cybersecurity intelligence platform focused on sharing curated, high-sensitivity threat insights and research with trusted security professionals.)
Three Buddy Problem - Episode 112: The 'OpenAI hacks Hugging Face' fallout has turned into a story about AI civilizations rising from the ashes, politicians calling for super-intelligence bans, and the emergence of well-funding non-profits doing AI safety work. Who are these people and what's their security expertise?
Plus, GPT-6 Astra lands in a trusted-access program nobody can get into, Costin ranks the local models he runs next to his desk, and CrowdStrike sinkholes a botnet that's been alive since 2003.
Cast: Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, Ryan Naraine and Costin Raiu.
Timestamps:
0:00 Introductory banter
1:02 Conference season: LabsCon, Offensive AI Con, Countermeasure
5:40 The Hugging Face story hits the front page
7:04 Dwarkesh, Greenblatt, and the AI-pilled framing
11:51 Swap "agents" for "Python" and the panic goes away
16:34 Does anyone actually know what happened?
21:18 Bernie Sanders wants to ban superintelligence
34:03 Defending against swarms: the 2026 SOC
39:15 Logs, Splunk, and the business model in the way
44:11 What EDR vendors are actually building with AI
56:16 The security poverty line and the endgame
1:07:53 GPT-6 Astra, Fable 5.1, and local model rankings
1:27:25 Google's Fairwind, CodeMender, and agents running Linux
1:45:31 Apple's bet on local inference
1:53:21 The Sality takedown and endgame advice
Episode Links
- Transcript
- TLPBLACK
- The Rise and Fall of Agent Civilizations
- Ryan Greenblatt – What happens once AI can automate AI research?
- Reuters: OpenAI agents hijacked German website
- Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board
- Security Incidents at METR
- Bernie Sanders Intros Legislation to Ban Artificial Superintelligence
- Open AI: Path to Astra
- Safety overview: GPT-6 Astra (OpenAI)
- Top local AI models for CTI workflows (Costin Raiu)
- Google Fairwind Limited Access Program
- Anthropic Ships Claude Fable 5.1 and Claude Mythos 5.1
- Inside the Sality Botnet Disruption Operation (CrowdStrike)
- Getting AI Agents to tell on themselves (Thinkst)
- LABScon 2026 Speakers
- Ringzer0 COUNTERMEASURE